David Wilcock: All right, it’s great to see you. I’m David Wilcock, as I’m sure you already know. And what you’re about to witness here is really cool. We have decided to give you a special treat, a life review, if you will, of the last year of “Cosmic Disclosure”, some of the highlights, some of the most impressive, most shocking, most amazing things that came out in the course of my discussions with Corey Goode over the last year.
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LUNAR OPERATIONS COMMAND
David: Tell us a little bit more about the LOC (Lunar Operations Command). I guess, first of all, what does it look like as you’re flying into it?
Corey Goode: Well, you can tell it’s been built and added onto quite a bit since the ’50s. It’s built into the craters and into the rocky area to where it blends in somewhat.
Some part of it is built into the rock. Very little of it is above ground.
David: Oh, okay.
Corey: Most of it, I have not had access to. I have seen a diagram to where it somewhat goes into a bell shape further and further down you go. And I’ve only had access to the upper levels.
David: So even though it’s a bell shape, you don’t actually see the bell on the surface of the Moon?
Corey: No. It’s like looking down at the top of the bell or the tip of a pyramid. You just see the smaller top, or the tip of the iceberg, I guess you would say. The rest is below and spreads out as it goes on.
David: If there are this many craft going to and from the LOC, and you say it’s on the dark side of the Moon, how could it possibly have been kept secret from us? Couldn’t people, with their telescopes, see all the ships coming and going from the Moon?
Corey: People do see that. There’s actually another base on the backside of the Moon that belongs to human beings. It belongs to one of the Secret Space Programs called Dark Fleet that a lot of people see craft coming from.
I can give more of the location of that one. If you’re looking at the Moon, it’s at about the 10:00 position.
People have filmed and seen flurries and swarms of craft leaving and coming from that area quite a bit, amateur astronomers with video cameras hooked up to their telescopes.
This is something that has been seen.
David: When was the LOC actually built?
Corey: The LOC was built onto an existing Nazi facility that had been built in the latter parts of the ’30s and ’40s.
David: So it goes that far back?
Corey: That far back. Once the industrial might of the United States became involved, they really started putting a lot into it and built it out like crazy. They started really building in earnest in the late ’50s on it.
The Moon is a very strict zone that is like a giant Switzerland.
David: It’s strange that you would say that the Moon is this neutral Switzerland type of area because it’s right next to the Earth. If it’s our moon, shouldn’t it be our property and we get to have control over the Moon?
David: It doesn’t work that way?
Corey: No. If you’ve seen the maps of Antarctica, how it’s sliced up amongst all the nations, . . .
Corey: . . . the back of the Moon is that way too. and all these different regions are pretty much owned and inhabited by different ET groups.
Corey: And there are some groups that have bad blood or have warred with each other going back many, many, many thousands of years, but they have installations that are just a couple kilometers away from each other.
And they have been there for many thousands of years in peace. There’s some sort of diplomatic agreement about the Moon. There’s something very special about the Moon being a very diplomatic neutral zone.
David: What is it like when you are in the LOC? Do they have apartments that you can go to once you get inside? Is it just wide open conference rooms and little chairs? What happens when you go inside?
Corey: Well, until recently, I had never been to the VIP area. I had always been to just the area to where they have small, not really apartments, but small little dwellings to where it has two to four bunks. The halls are real narrow.
You move over to the VIP area, the halls are wider. There’s wood paneling on the walls, like cherry wood – nice walls, very upscale. It’s a dramatic change when you go from one area to the VIP area.
David: Could you wander around and try to find a restricted area, or do you have military escorts that lead you around. How does that work?
Corey: Well, you’re allowed certain areas. There are marks, paint lines, on the floor . . . lines that are a different color that lead to different areas.
David: So, if you were red, then you’d just walk, follow the red line to where it leads to?
Corey: Right. And, like I said, I’ve only been . . .The top floor is where most of everything takes place. The next two floors were the medical and some other more advanced medical stuff take place. I have never been further down than those.
There are some people recently that have been taken on a tour that have gotten to see a lot more than I have. There are some people that are stationed there and work there, but it’s more of a way station. People are coming and going from it all the time to go further out into the solar system and beyond to go out to other stations, other bases, to go out to their assigned vessels.
Corey: What I’ve described as this federation super-council, . . .
Corey: . . . this is a Super Federation made up of other federations, councils, and other different organizations and groups.
David: So hence, the word “super”.
Corey: “Confederations”, I’ve heard used.
Corey: And it’s kind of like a giant UN of all of these different federations, confederations, councils that come to meet. And there are 40 main groups, with 20 other groups that are there a fair amount of the time, but not all the time.
Now, these groups are more of the human-looking, human type, and their bases seem to be mainly on the back of the moon and on moons of some of the gas giants, especially Saturn, so much so that there are areas around certain moons of Jupiter and Saturn that our vessels were completely forbidden from going anywhere near. And this is in our own solar system. These areas were off limits.
David: Our vessels’ meaning your Solar Warden faction?
Corey: The Secret Space Program.
David: Right. So whatever faction it was . . .
Corey: All of Earth’s Secret Space Programs were not allowed. No Earth space vessels were allowed within a certain distance of these moons.
There were 22 genetic programs that were going on.
David: What does that mean? What’s a genetic program?
Corey: Programs of them mixing their genetics and manipulating our genetics. The information was presented almost as if, going back to the college analogy, there were 22 term papers competing with each other, and each of these genetic experiment programs were presenting their information in that manner.
They were somewhat competing with each other. They weren’t all working . . . They weren’t all hand in glove, working together.
David: Did this involve these human-looking extraterrestrials . . .
David: . . . splicing their DNA with ours, that kind of thing?
Corey: Yes, and manipulating our DNA. There was also a spiritual component. They are very much involved in a part of the experiment. It’s not just them experimenting on us. They’re a part of this Grand Experiment too.
David: Did they have a goal? Why are they doing this? Why do they care?
Corey: That, I do not know. I don’t know if they’re doing it just because they can, if they’re trying to create some sort of super-being, but a lot of it didn’t . . . Why would they try to create . . . mix all of their best genetics together and then manipulate us in our civilization to keep us down?
David: How long do you think this program has been in action for?
Corey: Of the 22 different programs, they’ve been going on for different lengths of time, but the genetic manipulation of what we are has been going back at least 250,000 years.
Corey: But these programs, they vary, in their length from 5,000 going . . . They’re all different lengths of time.
David: This doesn’t sound like something that our secret Earth government or elected government would want these folks to be doing. Could we stop them?
Corey: I don’t think so. I mean, this is something that we’ve just recently been able to beg to get a seat at their table to be a part of the discussion.
David: So would these be negative-oriented extraterrestrials or more neutral – not really the benevolent type?
Corey: It depends on your point of view. It’s all amount of . . . It’s perspective. It’s hard to say this group is positive, this group is negative out of all those groups, because they see what they’re doing as a positive thing.
Corey: It’s going to be overwhelming to learn that there is a vast infrastructure throughout the entire solar system with everything from mining operations in the asteroid belt and on moons and planets to procure raw materials, to industrial complexes that produce technologies, and colonies of human beings that work in those industrial complexes and support this large industrial machine that is throughout our solar system.
David: What moons are we talking about? How many of the moons in our solar system – because there’s a lot of moons in our solar system.
David: There’s at least 100.
Corey: Right. There’s a lot more than 100.
David: Okay. So how far did this go and how much did it expand over time? What were the earliest moons that were conquered or landed on?
Corey: All of this is very tricky diplomatically because a lot of moons are off limits to everybody, because they’re diplomatic territory – ‘owned’ by some of these 40 or 60 groups.
David: The Super Federation.
Corey: The Super Federation people – especially around Saturn.
David: Really? Saturn has a lot of moons.
Corey: Yeah, yeah. But there was a lot of activity around the moons of Jupiter.
David: Germans and ICC people?
Corey: Um-hmm. And Uranus, and then the asteroid belt.
David: Now, I had Jacob, my space program insider, who I’ve mentioned before, tell me that some of these moons, the entire interior would be like a geodesic shape that has – like a dodecahedron, let’s say – pentagonal faces with trees and habitable land. Like the whole interior of it is hollow. You can fly your craft along, and you get to a certain point, and then you make a turn, and you fly this way.
And like when you get insider there, it’s almost like a paradise-type of world. Do you think that that might be some of what is going on in these Saturn moons, that they’re that built out inside?
David: Did you encounter information like that yourself?
Corey: And I encountered information that I’ve tried to stay a lot away from. All of this is so incredible, but our Moon is also an artificial body.
David: That is something that almost everyone in the know, that I’ve spoken to, has said.
Corey: It’s in a locked orbit with the Earth with almost like a tractor beam technology that has locked it in a orbit with the Earth. And they’ve found the energy field that goes deep within the Earth, to where it’s focused, to anchor the Moon. And the Moon only changes position, as it goes further from the Earth by, I think, centimeters every certain amount of years or something.
David: You’re saying that’s not normal for a moon?
Corey: Absolutely not. The Earth’s density and the gravitational effect it has in timespace, creating a torsion field by its spinning and contorting spacetime is not enough to capture something of the density . . . of what scientists say the density of the Moon is.
And because of the spinning of the Earth, it should have an effect on the Moon to cause it to spin.
David: Oh, wow!
Corey: But the Moon is locked in. It doesn’t spin. It’s locked in too close to the Earth, and it is not something that could have been captured. None of the scientific models have worked, that it was once part of the Earth and was flung out. It was around 500,000 years ago that the Moon became a satellite.
Corey: The first couple of German seed colonies that actually made it on Mars were within the first 20 degrees of the polar regions. There was one in particular that the ICC used to expand and build off of, and this one was somewhat in a canyon area, into the side of a canyon, and advanced in and was under the surface of Mars – not on the surface.
David: And you said that some how they hollowed out more space inside the Earth was with these what I was told were called Fifth Gen-type nukes, where they just create a big, sudden explosion with no lingering radioactivity?
David: The one that became the mainstay, was it in the northern or southern hemisphere?
Corey: The northern hemisphere was where the first main base that was a German name, in the beginning, which was built . . . was built out.
Corey: And it was built out in a huge way. It was built out to contain a large amount of engineers and scientists. And also, a little ways away, an industrial complex was built where they were going to start producing the, I guess, the items that they needed – technology that they needed that came from raw materials they mined on Mars, moons, and in the asteroid belt.
They took these raw materials, turned them into usable materials, and even composites, and created what they needed in these rather small plants in the beginning.
David: So what was considered to be the desired technology that they were building out there in the beginning? What was their initial attempt? What did they want to make?
Corey: They were building what was needed to expand on Mars.
Corey: So in the beginning, they were just building what was needed to expand their infrastructure on Mars.
David: So are they building materials on Mars out of local stuff, like you said before, involving the Kevlar bags and then making concrete out of local earth from the Mars sphere? What was the building technique? You said that these industrial facilities they had were building the things they needed.
Corey: Yes, they were building . . . The raw materials were coming from mining that was going on on Mars, on various moons and the asteroid belt. These raw materials were taken to the Mars’ industrial areas further away from the colonies and converted into usable materials, whether they be melted down into certain metals that were put into dyes or forms or converted into composite materials.
David: When was the first stable base that lasted on Mars?
Corey: I think they . . . around ’52 to ’54 is when they really started getting the United States to sign the agreements, and they had only just really got a good foothold on Mars by then. They really had a lot of setbacks on Mars. They lost a lot of lives.
David: So almost like an 18-year struggle.
Corey: Yeah. It was . . . I mean, they really did the pioneering work on Mars.
David: But they had better success building mining facilities on asteroids and moons prior to stabilizing Mars?
Corey: This was at the same time.
Corey: Yeah. Once they had a stable area to call their own territory, then they were then starting their mining operations. Their mining operations were more . . . I guess when a geologist goes around a large region and is picking up certain rocks, doing core samples, getting a good idea and then labeling certain areas and grids. I think it was more of an excavation and figuring out what was out there. When they found certain things they needed, they would start small mining operations.
You might think that you’re in some sort of naval facility or something. The living quarter areas are all labeled in alphanumeric. It looks very, very much like a military installation.
There was one place that we went that they had to fix a damaged piece of equipment that was essential, that the ICC couldn’t get their personnel to in a manageable amount of time. And we were escorted to . . . told not make eye contact with anybody, not to talk to anybody, that whole thing.
And there was a wall where people were like hanging art. I mean, it looked like they were doing some things for the mental health of people to make them not totally depressed and suicidal.
Corey: But the people looked gaunt, pale and just almost like drones – just going about their day.
David: Were there photographs of cool-looking ruins from old civilizations that you saw?
Corey: Yes, of ruins and of aerial photographs of areas, the huge volcano.
David: Olympus Mons.
Corey: Olympus Mons. There are lava tubes that are 10 times the size of the lava tubes we have here.
And they are perfect for sealing and creating an environment on the inside, and you have an easy, ready-made base. And that is a very highly coveted area to create bases.
And the Germans wanted it. Later, the ICC groups – I guess the modern space program groups – wanted to utilize that area, but it was already occupied by another group. There were a lot of them, and they defended it fiercely.
David: Really? Do we know anything about what they look like or where they’re from?
Corey: Yes. There’s a treaty between some of these groups. One of the groups are a reptilian type, and the other are an insectoid type.
David: That’s kind of what I expect. Ha, ha, ha.
Corey: That is a very coveted area.
David: So when you say 10 times bigger than lava tubes on Earth, are we talking five miles wide, 20 miles wide, 50 miles wide, top to bottom?
Corey: I mean, huge. Bigger, I mean, they dwarf any of the caverns or the tubes that we have here.
David: Most of which we don’t know about, I guess you’re saying.
Corey: Right, yeah.
David: Because they already have huge cities built in them.
Corey: It has to do with the size of the volcano, the gravity, the barometric pressure on Mars, and the way that . . . how come they’re so huge.
David: So could they be even like 100 or 200 miles long from top to bottom?
Corey: I would be speculating.
Corey: I didn’t see any hard data on how many meters or yards or feet they were.
David: But given that some of the cities here on Earth, I guess, can probably hold hundreds of thousands of people, you’re saying that in these lava tubes, you could have millions of people.
Corey: There are millions of beings . . .
Corey: . . . living in these lava tubes.
David: Wow! What are they doing?
Corey: Just living out their life cycles there.
Corey: I’ll start with the oldest, which is Solar Warden. They were started back in the late ’70s, ’80s, during the SDI – Strategic Defense Initiative, I think, is what that stood for – just before and after Reagan.
David: What was Solar Warden’s original responsibility?
Corey: They policed the solar system from intruders.
David: That would be groups that are not part of these 40 that are the Super Federation?
Corey: Right. And also somewhat of a space traffic-control, air traffic-control. They took care of that.
David: Couldn’t some ET group just interfere and invade with vastly superior weapons and technology? I mean, how could a group from the ’80s be able to police our solar system against, potentially, anybody that could try to invade here?
Corey: Well, they wouldn’t have been able to hold their own with a large invasive force, but most of the groups that passed through were only in, maybe, one to a handful of vessels. There’s so many different groups that pass through our area.
David: And I would guess it’s sort of like gang warfare, where the 40-some-odd ET groups that have sort of claimed this as their turf, with whatever level of technology they have, they’re also going to defend their home turf from an invasion.
David: So Solar Warden is not necessarily meeting a tactical force. They’re not having a weapons-up fighting stance when you say they’re policing the solar system. Or are they?
Corey: They would engage small numbers when they had to, but they were not ever a huge force to be reckoned with.
David: So most of these unwanted entrances into our solar system would be more small groups of ETs or single craft that are trying to be sneaky?
David: Just trying to slip in?
Corey: Little marauder groups that would come in and do hit and runs to come in and take things and leave.
As Solar Warden has started a cold war – pretty much, a cold war – they started to fly in front of the International Space Station to “accidentally” show their vessels, little things like that, in the beginning.
David: If Solar Warden is going to try to create disclosure, where obviously the other parts of the Space Programs don’t want it, couldn’t that lead to a shooting war between these factions?
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